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Re: 2019, 2020 , 2021 differences
Reply #30 on: January 17, 2021, 09:03:15 AM
Yamaha Super Tenere?
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Re: 2019, 2020 , 2021 differences
Reply #31 on: January 17, 2021, 09:34:38 AM
*Originally Posted by Sanctuary [+]
Every brand has its problems. But with BMW the issue is they over-engineer things, so when you have a problem it's pretty spectacular/catastrophic. The S1000RR's are a lot more expensive to maintain and I should know, I have a few friends that campaign them even though they know their weaknesses. But hey, whatever floats your boat...
  Like I said, I have never heard anyone refer to BMWs as unreliable, but there you go, you live & learn...

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Re: 2019, 2020 , 2021 differences
Reply #32 on: January 17, 2021, 09:40:39 AM
*Originally Posted by Nutkwaka [+]
Yamaha Super Tenere?

There are lots of great bikes available and I’m not saying the GS is the best, but for what it does it’s probably the most complete package, there’s a reason it outsells everything else, most folks who try one “get it” even if it’s maybe not what they’re looking for

But this is a whole new topic so we should probably start a new thread if folks want to continue discussing this

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Re: 2019, 2020 , 2021 differences
Reply #33 on: January 17, 2021, 10:12:01 AM
*Originally Posted by peter88 [+]
  Like I said, I have never heard anyone refer to BMWs as unreliable, but there you go, you live & learn...

This a report on bikes from a few years ago but BMW didn't come out well then:
https://www.rideapart.com/news/253927/consumer-reports-reveals-most-reliable-motorcycles/

I've never considered any of the European brands to be as reliable as the Japanese brands.  I wonder if, in BMWs case, people's perception is based on how reliable they used to be - the same as with Mercedes cars.

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Re: 2019, 2020 , 2021 differences
Reply #34 on: January 17, 2021, 10:22:20 PM
I'm afraid BMW has been riding the coattails of their reputation formed "back in the day" . They were, at one time the most reliable machine on two wheels, but the Japanese have continuously moved the bar on reliability while BMW has pretty much sat where they were.
Start out slow, then ease up.